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Grizzly bears, black bears, wolves, coyotes, cougars/ mountain lions,bobcats, wolverines, lynx, foxes, fishers and martens are the suite of carnivores that originally inhabited North America after the Pleistocene extinctions. This site invites research, commentary, point/counterpoint on that suite of native animals (predator and prey) that inhabited The Americas circa 1500-at the initial point of European exploration and subsequent colonization. Landscape ecology, journal accounts of explorers and frontiersmen, genetic evaluations of museum animals, peer reviewed 20th and 21st century research on various aspects of our "Wild America" as well as subjective commentary from expert and layman alike. All of the above being revealed and discussed with the underlying goal of one day seeing our Continent rewilded.....Where big enough swaths of open space exist with connective corridors to other large forest, meadow, mountain, valley, prairie, desert and chaparral wildlands.....Thereby enabling all of our historic fauna, including man, to live in a sustainable and healthy environment. - Blogger Rick

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Sunday, February 16, 2014

Blog reader L.B. weighing in on the impact of whether bountys effectively achieve the "controls" that state game agencies seek in limiting Wolf , Coyote and other Carnivores populations......He makes some spot on and Poignant points including -----"MOST predatory animals(e.g Wolves/Coyotes/Pumas) do not naturally continue to increase to an overpopulated state like deer or other ungulates"-------"Through territoriality and social controls of their own numbers, they do not and cannot exceed their natural carrying capacity"........... "Wherever they live, they are DIRECTLY controlled by the numbers of the prey animals they hunt"............ "Only in certain specific circumstances can predators suppress prey numbers, but even then, only temporarily, because suppressed prey numbers AUTOMATICALLY will lessen predator populations".........................So why then do we continue to have states like Pennsylvania calling for expensive and wasteful Bounty programs on Coyotes e al.?................. Pennsylvania Outdoor News Columist Mark Nale is right there reinforcing LB's commentary,,,,adding "As all wildlife biologists know – coyotes are a perfect example of the "compensatory response"............. "If coyote populations are low and food plentiful, coyotes will reproduce at a higher level and their offspring will survive at a higher rate than normal"........... "If coyote populations are high and food supplies low, their reproduction and survival rate drops".................. "Even if a bounty would cause significantly more coyotes to be shot (which is doubtful), the surviving coyotes would quickly respond by reproducing at a higher level"....................."Result: bounties paid, money lost – coyote population unchanged!!!!!!!!!"



BLOG READER "L.B" PROVIDING INSIGHT AS TO WHY CARNIVORE BOUNTIES ARE JUST "DEAD WRONG"!



UNBIASED study after study after study has been done(continues to be done, and likely will always continue to be done) regarding both wolf and coyote "controls" by humans, and the effects on other game animals and the environment.

The conclusion of almost all these studies is that human culls usually create MORE wolves and coyotes, at least initially, by disrupting wolf/coyote society, which encourages MORE breeding by these animals. And this continues as long as human interference does.

 Wolves and Coyotes(and MOST predatory animals) DO NOT naturally continue to increase to an overpopulated state like deer or other ungulates--through territoriality and social controls of their own numbers, they do not, cannot exceed their natural carrying capacity wherever they live--they are DIRECTLY controlled by the numbers of the prey animals they hunt.

 Only in certain specific circumstances can predators suppress prey numbers, but even then, only temporarily, because suppressed prey numbers AUTOMATICALLY will lessen predator populations.



 Wild predators can't supplement their diets by trips to the grocery store. It is ironic that predator control programs often create MORE predators, which seems to justify the need for such controls. whereas if humans were more patient, and just WAITED a few years, a more natural balance WILL BE restored, as has since life on earth began.

 But humans often aren't patient, and many don't like to share "their" game with ANY wild predators! The only way controls eventually work is if such eradication is continued until certain species(like wolves) are totally wiped out, as in the turn of the 19th century government control programs, which eradicate a lot of innocent wildlife in the process, which disrupt entire ecosystems creating unforeseen "cascades" affecting all manner of species negatively!

 Let's hope we don't regress to THAT selfish ignorance again! These are the HARD lessons learned (over and over and over--ad nauseum) by our selfish European dominated ancestors, that SOME people have learned and realized don't work well, but still too many, alas, have not.



 LOTS of info on this out there--specifically regarding scientific, unbiased studies done with about any predator you can think of. Human sport hunters need to develop a broader perspective(those that haven't yet--many have), and look beyond just their own success/failure during any particular hunting season. Not only would they--hopefully--learn to respect and share the wild places with wild predators, they'd save themselves a lot of stress and aggravation!....L.B.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

I think SOME wildlife officials(and MAYBE some politicians too. Maybe.) know very well bounties don't work, but they initiate them anyway to try and please all the whining predator haters out there. Perhaps it keeps them busy enough to keep them off the streets! Give them another outlet from even more destructive behavior. But yeah, how many centuries of bounty efforts that never work do we have to experience before it becomes common knowledge that they DON'T WORK! Us predator lovers just have to be LOUDER and MORE annoying, I guess, than the predator haters!....L. B.